User talk:Katefan0

Welcome!

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Reply

I have replied to your comment on my talk page. →Raul654 08:10, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

New House members

Thanks for your message. No problem. The birth format I used automatically puts the name of the person into the category too (and a little thing like ensuring that "b" is lower case in "birth" is important, for some reason).

I think it's great that you're adding some political-issue background to the articles on the new members. It's exactly what we need. If you want to look at Jim Costa, you'll see an example of one article on a new House member I created - with a graphic at the bottom showing the former and current member of that district. Feel free to copy the HTML and adapt it if you want for your new articles. I also like adding the Congressional district number, but it's not necessary. Anyway, glad you're doing this! We'll get them done and in perfect shape long before the 109th Congress begins at this rate. Moncrief 19:09, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

Republican and Democrats

Since it looks like you can really help with adding some political information, I just want to say that instead of linking to Republican or Democrat (or even to Republican Party or Democratic Party), use the links to United States Republican Party and United States Democratic Party instead. Again, it's great to have you here. --Ricky81682 02:06, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

US Navy squadrons

I've made your start at a list of USN aircraft squadrons into a redirect. The reason is that I already created a much more comprehensive list a few months ago. However, if you want to look at my list and fill in any gaps you can see please do so. It's good to have another person around who is prepared to write articles that are often vital, but not the most interesting to create! David Newton 23:55, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

If you go to my user page you will see a whole load of links to lists of military units. It's not quite comprehensive but most of the major lists on the site are linked to there. The USAF squadron list could certainly do with some serious work. BTW, your article on VF-211 looks to be very good. I've created a redirect from VF-211 to the article. David Newton 00:21, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The whole 109th Congress

Thanks for finishing up the profiles! I don't have time to do an exhaustive check that they're all done, but off the top of my head... I don't see anything on Connie Mack IV. Is it under a different name? If so or when done, also add a link to the disambiguation page Connie Mack (which now has listings for his great-grandfather and father, which of course shouldn't be changed). Thanks again. Moncrief 00:15, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

USN Squadrons

Hi Katefan0 - thanks for a couple of excellent contributions to a curiously overlooked area. If I can be so bold as to offer a couple of hints:

Categories aren't like normal articles - they're more like a cataloguing system for articles. In general, they answer the question "This is an article about a..." (Answer: "United States Navy squadron" - but note that by convention, category names are pluralised). If you want to refer readers back to the main list of all US Navy squadrons, you should say "see also: List of United States Navy aircraft squadrons" at the end of your article.
You'll find it useful to familiarise yourself with ship and aircraft naming conventions to make sure your links go where you want them to. This is easier to demonstrate than explain, so if you check out the edits I just made to the VFA-14 Tophatters article, you'll see what I mean. In general, link to US ships like this: [[USS Enterprise (CVN-65)|USS ''Enterprise'']] and to US aircraft like this: [[F4U Corsair]] when the aircraft has an official or widely-used name, and like this: [[Boeing C-22]] if it doesn't. Note that usually if you want to link from a specific variant, you'll need to use a "pipe trick" like this: [[F-4 Phantom II|F-4J Phantom II]] since few variants have specific articles written about them (yet). Full detail atWikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships)
Note that prior to 1962, the US Navy named aircraft by manufacturer, so Curtiss' first fighter was the FC, followed by the F2C, F3C etc. Subtypes were numbered with a dash, so F6C-1, F6C-2, F6C-3 etc.

Hope that isn't too much information overkill! Welcome to Wikipedia and keep up the great work! :) Cheers --Rlandmann 07:08, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Charles Dent

Hi. I don't see an entry for the winner of the PA-15th District House seat? Am I missing it - is it under a variant name? Thanks. Moncrief 07:37, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Never mind! I saw that it was under Charlie Dent and I did a redirect from Charles Dent. Does he usually go by Charlie then? Moncrief 07:43, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

Categorisation

Hi again - I'm just wondering whether piping the squadron articles to their nickname while categorising them is a good idea. Many (most?) squadrons don't seem to have had a nickname, and this means that eventually, the category will be a real mess, with some squadrons sorted under their nickname and some under their designation. The water gets further muddied under "V" (and eventually, "H"), as these letters will contain a mix of names and numbers. Just my 2c - and congratulations again for such nice work. --Rlandmann 22:31, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

I just spotted your update to Uk-cumbria.png. Based on the list of tags, and the claim made by the uploader, shouldn't it be tagged as {{PD-USGov-CIA}} or {{PD-USGov-CIA-WF}} if it does come from the factbook? (I don't know if it does). Best to be as specific as possible! But kudos for actually doing the work. DavidBrooks 01:49, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, you made a good point on my user page; it actually did get the permission from UT. DavidBrooks 01:53, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the story

Your story about your aunt brought tears to my eyes. It is all very real. We humans are just beginning to figure out how to be responsible for being here on this planet. :) Good to meet you. ---Rednblu | Talk 20:21, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Philosophy of Mind Cleanup

Please explain this request on the philosophy of mind discussion page. 80.3.32.9 12:04, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC) I think I was pretty clear about why it needs cleanup on the cleanup page, but for the record, this is what I put on the page's discussion section: This article is written like an essay, not like an encyclopedia entry. Therefore, it needs cleanup. Katefan0 08:08, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Texas Longhorn

You probably have this page on your watch-list, but just in case you do not, I added some more reference material on the talk page, as well as a suggestion on how to incorporate the various facts/views/theories on the downfall of the breed. I look forward to your feedback. Cheers, Johntex 00:48, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah, leave it to someone who was on the TSP board to come behind me and fix my inconsistent University of Texas linking. Thanks! By the way, did you like how I improved the U of Michigan page? Hook 'em. Johntex 03:50, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oops - sorry about the TSP bit. I thought I saw that on your User/Talk page but it was actually a post from Grouse, not you. I myself wrote many Firing Lines and a couple of editorials, and I wrote for the esSAy, which was the Student Government newsletter at the time - I don't know if they still have that. I feel your pain about the early hearing in the morning. I myself have slides to prepare for the board of directors meeting and instead I am on Wikipedia ~~procrastinating~~ picking up inspiration. Of course, you are 3 hours worse of then me if you are in D.C. Ah - the game! I could go on for a long, long time about how great that game was. For me, it was in the top 3 UT games; up there with beating U of H when they were really highly ranked (1988?) and beating Nebraska to win the first Big12 championship. An added bonus to the Michigan game was watching it with my good friend from the U of M. That accounts also for my being so extremely pleased with myself for editing the U of M page... Good luck with the early hearing. Johntex 04:12, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Preemptive VfDing

Hello Kate. As you may have noticed, I am preemptively posting my own articles to VfD, for example: THG and USA. I'm not doing this to prove or make a point, as Alkivar suggested, but simply to prevent myself from wasting time. As I'm sure you're aware, articles of great historical value are suggested for deletion daily, and on occassion the deletionists succeed in seeing these articles erased from Wikipedia. I'd much rather establish the retainability (avoiding the word "notability" here) up front or have my document killed from the get-go than spend a month writing, researching and referencing an article only to have it erased the moment I take a vacation from Wikipedia. P.S.: Which BBS did you used to run? —RaD Man (talk) 18:23, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's an interesting strategy...... I think. What makes you think that they'd ever come up for VfD? Has someone attacked your articles in the past? (Head-scratching.) Of course, I have to point out that I myself am a deletionist. We're mostly good and thoughtful people, honest. On to the fun stuff -- My BBS was an upcoming 2-node run out of SoCal (LA) in the early 90's, running off Celerity (the programmer was a friend of mine), called Imperial City. You probably wouldn't recognize it unless you were active in SoCal. It had just started really taking off but I pulled the plug pretty soon after. TNSHB et al had gotten busted, and I was starting to be included in those gigantic conference phone calls the SoCal warez heavies would do all the time.. I guess about 6 mos later I took it down. I'd set up a panic button for my HD and was getting nervous everytime someone drove past the house too slow. Just wasn't worth it. I miss it sometimes though. I thought I'd had some ads saved on this computer, but I don't -- damn shame. Most of them were done for me by iCE though. Where were you active mostly? Katefan0 18:52, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Articles for underground groups (warez included) old and new are constantly challenged on VfD. See: DEViANCE. My nominations are nothing more than refactored RickK quotes. :) Celerity — I knew The Byter and even oversaw the design of several ANSI screens for The Lexicon of the Cabal and Celerity BBS during that time. Please tell him I said hello if you still keep in touch. Imperial City? Yes, it does sound vaguely familiar, there might even be a few ANSIs for it on the Dark Domain Archives DVD [1], who knows. I was active pretty much everywhere (literally), but live in Northern California. —RaD Man (talk) 19:10, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  - Well, as far as VfD's go on those kinds of groups, you can count me an ally. One of Wikipedia's strengths, I think, is that it serves as a respository for underground and pop culture -- there've been several times when I've come here looking to understand some term or phenomenon and been rewarded. But there is a lot of crap that floats around in the stream, so to speak, that I am always ready to get rid of. Fancruft. Corporate drek. Isn't it funny what a small world it is?? Lexicon of the Cabal -- I haven't thought about this stuff for years and years. R. Bubba Magillicutty, Philosopher, Renegade Chemist, Dixie Flatline. You know Byter is still running around out there. I haven't emailed him in, God, probably a couple of years, I don't even remember what it is anymore, but he is still active on the MUD called Ancient Anguish, under his old handle. Whenever I have an urge that's usually how I get ahold of him. Also just read your iCE interview -- I knew Honus Wagner as well. I am from Houston originally and I started my first warez BBS there. Unfortunately I have no idea where he is these days -- we were never good friends but we were acquainted. Katefan0 19:29, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
    - Funny, I just went and poked around on textfiles.com and found a couple ACiD ads for my board -- one by Sonic and one by JED himself. I actually still have the computer my board ran on, with the entire BBS still intact. But it's down in Texas at the moment. Katefan0 21:10, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
      - Excellent. I thought it sounded familiar. :) I work fairly closely with the maintainer of textfiles.com (you'll note that a large portion of artscene.textfiles.com is a derivative of an old archive called artpacks.acid.org which we hosted) and understand that he is looking towards archiving entire BBS setups some time in the not so distant future. I'd also be interested to know if you had any diskmags/ezines I am missing from the very early 1990s. You have a priceless time capsule on your hands, let me know if you ever have an opportunity to burn the files to some portable media (CD-R/DVD-R). —RaD Man (talk) 21:17, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for editing repeated words

Thanks for your work at User:R3m0t/Reports. Ignoring the fact that Gmail addresses are now dirt cheap and available on Wikipedia, I can offer you up to 3 addresses as token of gratitude (and showing off that I have those invitations ;)) If you accept (reply on the reports page please), make sure that you are acceping e-mails from the left link "E-mail this user". r3m0t 22:02, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I replied at my own user page: User talk:R3m0t#Reports. r3m0t 22:36, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

DC

welcome to the dc-wikipedians club, hope everything is groovy with you. see you around. —thames 18:06, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

DC wikipedians club? neat, sign me up! ;) --Morbid-o 17:18, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

You were at the Texan?

Cool, what did you do? I love Jason but I'm not sure he really reached the bar for notability there...

And my feathers are never ruffled. --Grouse 01:01, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I wasn't at the Texan per se. I was one of those evil people on the TSP Board. Eeeeeeeeeevil. Well I'm told that's how we were portrayed downstairs. The year 2001 was not a banner year for boardroom-basement relations, but don't believe everything you hear. --Grouse 01:47, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I'll tell if you tell. I'll even go first. Deal? ;) (Just so you know, I'm never anyone who ran for election to the editorship.) --Grouse 02:06, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  - Changed my mind about what? Telling you who I am if you tell me? I was unclear that you had accepted that offer. ;) --Grouse 08:32, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
    - Oh right, I remember who you were. Jennie Kennedy told us you were going to write a story on the elected editor, but you were too busy and so Celina did it instead. Nice to see you again. ;) I'm Michael Hoffman, by the way, but you probably have no idea who I am. --Grouse 21:13, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
      - If there has ever been a finer example of damning with faint praise, I don't think I've seen it. But thanks anyway. ;) (yes, yes, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, no need to say anything more etc etc) --Grouse 00:11, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Return of the Untagged Image project

You were kind enough to contribute to the Wikipedia:Untagged images project; I beg to draw your attention to part 2 of the project - there are about 12,000 more images in need of tagging. Any assistance you could provide would be most welcome. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk)

Re: Katharine Hepburn

Hmm. I wasn't actually aware that particular "semi-policy" had much sway, but it does make sense. I sympathise with your quandary (it seems I reverted the same user back on January 3rd), but the fact that this user edits from an ever-shifting dynamic IP complicates any possible dispute resolution. However, I should point out that it does not appear as if you've been very close to violating the three revert rule; for that to happen, you'd have to revert the same page more than three times in the same 24-hour period. It's a small blessing that this user isn't very quick on the rebound, and seems to take at least a day or more to return.

For this dispute to be resolved amicably, a dialogue must be established: this does not seem likely to happen, as the user switches IPs after every edit (meaning messages on talk pages are very unlikely to be read). For this reason you have few options: you could start an RfC to attract more attention to the issue and more eyes watching for bad edits; and in the meantime, continue with a war of attrition and hope the user eventually tires of the issue.

If I see the user make unexplained deleterious edits again, I'll simply block the IP with a note to read his/her talk page, where I'll kindly ask the user to explain the reasons for his/her deletions on the article's talk page. Deleting material one doesn't agree with isn't strictly grounds for a block, but considering this user's track record—the first two pages of edit history at Katharine Hepburn are dominated by various reversions of his/her edits—I think a (temporary) block would be justified.

I hope the above was of some help. -- Hadal 02:27, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Especially since the idiot edits from a variety of addresses, about the only thing you can do, short of the absolutely last step of protecting the page, is to keep it on your watchlist and keep checking on it. I've given up trying to deal with ISPs. They never reply. Rick K 20:09, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

I couldn't write any more about Katharine Hepburn as a gay icon, because I was just merging from the now-deleted list in the Gay icon article to the gay icon category. Philwelch 22:58, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Love Among the Ruins

Hi, and thanks for responding so quickly. I've already collected some material, so, if you don't mind, I'll just write it up and create the disambig page. Bye for now, <KF> 20:26, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

I was just going to answer "Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you." All you'll have to do is disambiguate the title on your own user page. <KF> 22:01, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

NAMBLA

Thanks for your offer of support. The most useful thing you can do is drop by regularly and revert the article to my most recent edit, so that I don't have to do it and get banned under the 3R rule. I see you are a political reporter. Perhaps you could contact someone in Boston (the court reporter on the Globe perhaps?) and find out (a) what has happened with the Curley v NAMBLA lawsuit mentioned in the article and (b) whether David Thorsdat and Daniel Thorstad are the same person or not. Adam 13:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Any info you can turn up by any method would be helpful. Adam 14:16, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

From a newbie who stumbled on this article via the village pump: Kudos on your excellent efforts in mediating the current controversies on the article and the talk page. Seeing stuff like this makes me want to stick around. Soundguy99 03:21, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your VFD vote on OurColony

I ask you to reconsider. Ourcolony was not created to circumvent the vote on OurColony.net but infact was created 2 days prior to your VfD submission. Check the history of the two sites and see for yourself.

Ourcolony history

-- Jonamerica 07:16 (UTC) on Monday, April 11 2005

OurColony

I can't understand your VfD police... nonsense and abusive. OurColony.net is a very interesting Xbox 360 marketing, like I Love Bees with high repercuss in media. [2] [3] --Mateusc 18:01, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

C'mon katefan. Give our wiki a chance. Maybe you should check it out? You obviously don't know what it's about. Therefore you are being quite naive about it's right to be allowed here. It's obviously not your thing. Just let us have a chance. lol that and the fact that deleting it would more than likely cause an anti-wikipedia campaign to start here and you'd have 100's per day starting new wiki's. Don't believe me? Read some of the forums. That's honestly not meant as a threat, only an insightful prediction. I've seen it before. We can stop the possiblity of that now. Just MHO --tcpvtec 20:35 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Help on NAMBLA Article

ALthough we haven't seen eye-to-eye on exactly everything, you are probably the most objective of all the participants in the current round of editing. Your contributions and insight are greatly appreciated, and your adherence to the highest standards of neutrality and quality of work are invaluable. Thank you for your time and effort, and I look forward to working with you in the future. Oh, and I think you deserve one of these Barnstars of Diligence. Sincerely, Corax 04:22, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Gay Skinhead revision

As one who followed the VfD on Gay skinhead very closely, and who has at least heard of the book Gay Skins: Class, Masculinity, and Queer Appropriation, I'd especially appreciate any comments you might want to make on my rewrite. Thanks. Unconventional 08:51, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikimeet

I was just looking at the new Cleanup Taskforce page, and noticed that you're in D.C. You might be interested attending the upcoming East Coast meetup in D.C.. Much fun shall be had by all. If you're interested and want any input into when we schedule it, go and register your availability. Happy editing, Isomorphic 01:43, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Wikipedia is a deceptively large place, and it's easy to miss items of interest if you aren't looking at the right pages at the right time. Happens to me all the time. Hope we'll see you there. Isomorphic 04:47, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Humble Guys

No way, I'm way too young for that sort of thing. I didn't even know what the internet was in the early 90's! Thanks for the note, though. You learn something new every day. humblefool ® 03:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You might want to leave a note for and see if he replies. ;) —RaD Man (talk) 03:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup Taskforce: Italian unification

Thanks, I'll take a look. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 05:54, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)