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Welcome

welcome McGyver! I hope you enjoy your stay at wikihotel and decide to stay forever! It's free!!! lol

Anyways, jokes aside, welcome and have a great time here, Im looking forward to reading your articles.

God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Energy Bunny Martin


Reflecks 18:42, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hey McGwyver: I found you in the Recent changes page, this page had a question mark, meaning that obviously no one had welcomes you yet. Youre only the second person in two years I get to welcome aboard. I myself was welcomed by Mav.

My main subjects here are boxing and airlines. But everyonce in a while, I wander off, such as when I wrote about Menudo or Arrowhead Water or Grand Theft Auto: Vice City or anything else Im a fan of.

Thanks for your message, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Bolthead Martin

PS: checking your user page, I thought you'd be interested in List of teen idols, I originated the page, feel free to update it as needed.


Archives and links

I'm also a member of Wikipedia:WExCUp. You can find my WExCUp desk here.


Can you give me a hand with...

Hi, Mgm! I'd like to create a new Talk:Armenian_Genocide page, as the existing one has gotten too long. I went to the Help section, but I was perplexed and somewhat intimidated... I'm afraid of doing something wrong, as the first page needs to still be there and be linked to. Would I be a real bum if I asked you to take care of this for me? If you feel like I'd be taking advantage of your well demonstrated amazing kindness, perhaps you can give me the detailed procedure, so even a Wiki-nitwit as I can follow and not foul up. In appreciation, Torque 02:36, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You really came through. I sincerely appreciate it. What a gentleman you are... Torque

lost edits

as far as we're aware, no more than 3 minutes of edits before the moment of the power failure should be lost, and i suspect it's less than that. as the site was read-only while the last few hours of edits were being replayed afterwards, some pages may show old cached versions even though there's new a newer version in the database; purging these pages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_page?action=purge) should fix that. kate.

Pre 17th Century in sports

The edit added to start the article was both in the wrong place (1602 being 17th century, not pre 17th) and also false. Football in England was recorded as far back as the 12th century. I'd suggest the cleanup-verify tag for similar one line claims that you don't have time to check up on yourself. Average Earthman 11:43, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

boxcar (band) != boxcar

regarding the "problem suggestion", i think you must be confusing it with boxcar, the article i am referring to is boxcar (band) which i just created. did you follow the link itself, you'll see the history shows it was just created. boxcar is a kind of train car, boxcar (band) is an electronic band, very different. clarkk 08:47, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

thanks, no problem, an easy mistake to make. could you include this in the next update? otherwise it will start to get too old (give the server crash, i think this should be grandfathered in...) ;-) clarkk 23:26, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

VFD template

I didn't see any reason to discuss such a minor change as background color. (The remainder of the changes were minor as well; the only text I removed was redundant, self-evident, or otherwise unnecessary.) However, I did browse around to see if there was any reason in particular that the previous background color was desirable, and not finding any, I replaced it with the generic "toccolours", which I think is far more attractive. Feel free to change it back, of course. 13:08, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Deleting categories

Thank you for your quick response. I would like to have deleted the category "Candombe". I guess it was actually Tuf-Kat that created it, but he did so when the article candombe was less than a dozen words long. I basically wrote the article and strongly feel it shouldn't be a category as well. Can't imagine what other article would fit into it.

Also, could you tell me how I can use the search box to see if a category exists which contains a certain word? Thanks again! Mona-Lynn 12:26, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Incorrect information regarding Bay to Breakers

(Copied from Template_talk:Did_you_know#Incorrect_information.) How can this footrace be the longest in the world if it's shorter than a marathon? This looks like incorrect information to me. Gerritholl 10:34, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

  • I've removed the info, until I can determine the exact definition of the word footrace. Mgm|(talk) 09:17, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
  • It looked as if the talk page was protected on Template Talk:Did you know, but I wanted to point out that the claim of being "the longest consecutively run footrace in the world" is made directly on the Bay to Breakers website. In fact, it is the opening sentence on their History page at www.baytobreakers.com/history/. If this is an invalid claim I would like to see their staff retract this statement and see this matter resolved. —RaD Man (talk) 21:11, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK talk

That's because I informed them. I did note that in the summary when I moved them into the archive section. Warofdreams 14:08, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sandbox/cleanup

Hi, I happened to notice that you manually cleaned the sandbox. According to Wikipedia:Cleaning department#Wikipedia:Sandbox, it gets automagically cleaned every couple of hours by a 'bot. However, if you're into cleaning, there are tons of other things listed in Wikipedia:Cleaning department that need someone to sign up for them! Noel (talk) 15:22, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PS: Hey, you like seriously need to do some archiving on your Talk: page... :-) Noel (talk) 15:26, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change

Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Wikipedia:Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:36, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandals

I too have been gone much of the day, but whatever vandals were harrassing you seem to have quit for the time being. As for temporary protection, I don't like to protect any talk page except in extreme cases (I believe the protection policy says something to that effect as well), in case someone wants to leave you a legitimate message. Cheers — Dan | Talk 02:02, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I tried to make it indefinite, but it didn't seem to work; regular admins may not have that ability any more. Anyway, I made it for 3 years instead, which should have the same effect. Jayjg (talk) 14:36, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No, I was the first that got to him this time; I checked for that. Maybe I was just typing something incorrectly; in any event, 3 years should have the same net effect. Jayjg (talk) 02:47, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:Vaoverland - administrator

Thank you for supporting my appointment as an administrator. I appreciate the pat on the back this represents. It felt nice to read the comments during the voting. Please let me know if you see something I should be doing as admin, as I intend to be fairly passive unless it is clear I should do otherwise. Thanks. Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 20:06, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Caltox and Vandenbr

You have already seen this first part.

I fear that slapping a }}wikify{{ tag on Cell handover process is not going to have much effect. Stronger action is needed.

Vandenbr and Caltox have handwriting so similar that they must be the same person.

Vandenbr made an inauspicious start on Feb 18 when he simply replaced Quality of service and Grade of service with articles of his own. In attempting to make an edit to Trunking, he managed to wipe out all the wikilinks.

Since then he has been developing his own orphan island of wikilink-free articles indexed by Teletraffic Engineering. To be honest, although I know a bit about telecomms, I have not bothered to read them closely - I was more concerned about the prima donna-ish way that he seems to be proceding.

The articles under Teletraffic Engineering#PSTN Traffic (these are by Vandenbr) seem rather turgid but may contain stuff not found elsewhere on Wiki. Full Availability, Limited Availability and Gradings looks horribly out of date - relating to electromechanical exchanges rather than digital.

Teletraffic Engineering#Mobile Traffic are by Caltox. These definitely duplicate stuff covered elsewhere on Wiki.

I have asked him some questions at User talk:Caltox. If he does not come up with some meaningful answers, I think I shall put the whole lot up in Wikipedia:Deletion policy to see what the telecomms experts think.

-- RHaworth 13:35, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)

Vandenbr has now learned how to create piped links but is otherwise sailing his own independant way. I have created Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Teletraffic Engineering to see what people think. -- RHaworth 03:49, 2005 Mar 7 (UTC)


Moon illusion

Deleted setion said nothing of current status as an "explaination". It was just decptive.

Kurdistan Workers Party

The article currently is propoganda, I honestly (for this case). The article is not one sided, its factual, if the other party dont like what they have done they can whine on their own historic facts cannot be changed. Turkey never occupied Kurdistan, the nation didnt quite exist either. It existed in the Treaty of Serves which was revoked, which led to the Turkish Independece war and with the Laussane (not sure of spelling) the article ceased to exist. Turkey never signed the serves hence it was not an accepted treaty hence anything declared on the article of serves is officialy nothing more than fiction. I was staying neutral, the PKK is recognised as a terrorist organisation by all world powers that have actual power. Even the most insignificant country had not ever recognised Kurdistan as a country, so he occupation is definately a valid statement. I have 0 tollerance for the propoganda of this organisation. I am not demonising the group, I am merely spitting out what they had done. The information I provided (and the table) should be reverted. I was translating the table but it is an overwheling task for me, esspecialy the formatting (I may need help for that). Also do you know the symbol I can use that is basicaly a filled o? I need that for the starfleet ranks article and how to draw a box around text? --Cool Cat My Talk 03:10, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • How does the article look now? --Cool Cat My Talk 20:26, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

IPs

Moved down:
Thanks for your comments. Following the deletion of the target article, IP addresses on the page are no longer appropriate. (by )


IPs

Please either delete the votes for delete page containing IPs used by myself, or remove them from the page. The article they reference is now deleted, and so the page serves little purpose. It is idle to keep the useless page in storage for years to come, may as well delete it.

IPs

And in twenty five years when nobody remembers the article? Will the notes be kept then? Along with 1,000,000 terabytes of similar notes on similar articles?


DYK

timeline

I dont quite know how to wrk with the timetable. can you assist? I coppied it from tr.wiki. text should be on bar not semi-above it. --Cool Cat My Talk 03:30, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I saw this user has been harassing you about that vfd page (a few comments above), so I thought you might be the right person to ask this. He's been harrassing me as well, demanding I remove his IPs. Now, he's found my external blog, and is threating legal action for 'invasion of privacy'. Wikipedia's got my back on this, right? --InShaneee 17:00, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Radio programs guy

That IP is an unregistered bot. See User:B-Movie Bandit for background. It'll at least explain the lack of comment. :) Mike H 22:59, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

Dankie

Thanks for reverting edits by 67.84.158.126 on my user page--Jcw69 16:44, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Early VfD closure

Many thanks! I'll be more careful in future. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:45, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK 14/03/05

Regarding the four new DYK articles; the picture of a Trident missile is not referred to at all in the Thiokol description. Perhaps you should replace it with a picture of the Space Shuttle, Mars Pathfinder or Mazda Miata (all listed). Another option would be to include the fact that they produce the solid-rocket first stage for Trident missiles in the description. Mark 11:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That was quick! Thank you. Mark 11:30, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

speedy deletion of Image:Liberty-delacroix.jpg

It looks like someone already took care of it, but this image was an orphaned, small-file size version of the painting. I uploaded a larger image, making this one redundant. --jacobolus (t) 15:31, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Babes in the Wood VFD

Greetings. I'm wondering if you'd take a quick look at the rewrite I've done on Babes_in_the_Wood and see if you'd be willing to reconsider your vote for deletion. Best, --Jacobw 16:37, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK 16/03/05

Yeah, I know, I'm becoming a massive pain in your ****. I just wanted to suggest an image to go with the BBC coat of arms article in DYK: BBC Virtual Crest.JPG. Only suggest it in the case you wanted to replace the older picture at present. Mark 13:22, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

MGM...

I didn't know you were from the Netherlands; I have a Dutch girlfriend!

Looking at your talk page, I'm stunned as to how you can keep up with all of these requests. I see how you've touched many of the ones who have asked you for help.

At any rate, MGM, thank you for your great archiving at the Armenian Genocide talk page, and for being such a gentleman. I've been away for a while, and took a look today. The madman who has infiltrated the page has completely overpowered everyone with his big mouth and his unending drivel. He has transformed the article page with his horrible propaganda; he says he has countered all of the very valid history that was already part of the page, but all he has offered is a lot of blah-blah; he will say anything to fudge the truth. Now I can go back and change things, but he is totally obsessed, and it's hard to find the energy to keep up with this "weasel beast." Coolcat has been trying to match wits with him, but give Fadix a sentence and he will he will smother you to death with a his relentless propaganda. It's useless to argue with this character who is simply beyond reason.

What can be done? The point is he has compromised Wikipedia's integrity with his infusion of propaganda, and that should not be allowed. I guess I can engage him in an edit war, but I've already devoted too much of my life to this, and he will win... he's like a wolf, just waiting to pounce. This is the shortcoming of a platform like Wikipedia; even if the record seems to have been set straight in the article, this kind of unscrupulous person will come in and change everything to suit his agenda. Moreover, I see two new pages of propaganda have been created. I'll attempt to get BM's opinion, too. Thanks. --Torque March 17, 2005

  • Thanks, MGM. I appreciated your speedy and courteous reply. Where can I find out more about RFC or RFAr? These are unfamiliar terms for me. The two pages in question are Adana holocaust and Hamidian massacres. The former page's title, about a rebellion, has nothing to do with a "holocaust," but we're dealing with an egotistical fanatic who is solely interested in pushing his agenda. And you may have placed too much faith in Coolcat, as much as I appreciate his efforts. While he had it "up to here" and wrote it was time to study for his calculus exam, Fadix drowned him out in his filibustering style. His strategy is to overwhelm his opponents into submission, with the sheer numbers of his nonsensical words. I request you pay a visit to BM's talk page, where I provided more insight into this problem. Perhaps the both of you fine administrators can find an interim solution, since currently, "Fanatix" has "won," and his propaganda represents Wikipedia. Thanks. --Torque

Deleting images

Hello mgm. On IFD on the March 10 unverified orphans, you stated "I see at least one image on this list of which the uploader was not informed. Please inform the user, before putting images up for deletion. They may be perfectly legal." Of course I don't know which image you were referring to, but I'm very careful to contact the uploader. The only exceptions are (a) when the user has been absent for an extended length of time, or (b) where the user has already indicated that it's okay to delete the images. Best regards, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 00:51, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

500K

In case you haven't seen elsewhere by now, it looks like the 500,000th article was Involuntary settlements in the Soviet Union. --Michael Snow 16:49, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Armenian Genocide

Fadix is constantly accusing me of things. I do not want you to do anything right now but just tell me am I over reacting? He is oposing 50-50 representation of claims and counter-claims. He has a 0 tolerace to any oposing idea policy we were only able to change a few words. --Cool Cat My Talk 20:21, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Of what I am accusing you, feel free to point that out. Your biases has now been witnessed by another member. I am following Wikipedia rules. You delete the entry regarding "most scholars" etc. If you present this as it is 50-50 supported in the intellectual community, it is POV. You can not suggest that Western scholars are devided regarding this topic, when there is a ratio of hundreds, perhaps thousands to one. But this is of what you are after. Wikipedia specificaly say that neutrality is not about presenting two theses as equaly valid, if you suggest that, it is a suggestion and it is POV. Read that section, I have read it. Besides, there are many issues that are not covered by the other sides, which means there is no counter sides. Example, the special organization, the other side answer to that is complete silence, according to you I should delete that entry just because there is no counter answer.
You can not present equaly 50-50, when it is not defended 50-50, Wikipedia has a note about that, in which it says that as much space should be left as the proportion defended... those are not my words. If the informations lead the reader to conclude there is a genocide, this is not my fault. If the fact that most Western academics believe it was a genocide suggest there was one is not my fault. If the fact that some Turkish academics ignoring their governments threats recognize it and that if a reader read that info and become convinced... it is not my fault. If the fact that the Armenian cases is the second most studied genocide bring people to believe it was a gemocide, it is not my fault. Wikipedia is about presenting different versions, and not deleting parts that could lead people to concluded it is equaly defended. What you suggest is like deleting facts about Earth spherical nature to present the Flat and spherical argument as 50-50. Give is a brake Coolcat, a member has witnessed your clear biases, and I assure you that it is a matter of time that others will conclude the same thing about you. Call that attacks I don't care, just the fact that you introduce your biases in everything that regard Turkey under the pretext of moderating is enough a strong evidences. Leave people that know about topics to discuss about them, if you ignore a topic don't delete informations because you want two positions to be equaly valid. This is not what Wikipedia is about.
Another note, I see that you have again started your compagn against me, why don't you get involved in the mediation process, it appears that you are boycotting it for a reason. Oh and, I hope people understand why I don't even start answering to Torque pathetic campagne to ruine my credibility, since when I have something to say about someone, I say it in his face so I can let him defend himself, just like I have invited Torque to participate in the mediation, in a forum where he compares Armenians to insects. I just hope he won't start spamming like he is known to do. Fadix 22:34, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Another point, my problem is not about changing few words, my problem is to use words that mislead and fool the reader. You can not do that, it is against Neutral point of view to suggest something that is not true. You want to change the "Most" with "some" as if this is defended equaly, if it is not defended equaly, this should be pointed out. Fadix 22:48, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • I appreciated your reply as always, MGM; to keep you updated, I posted a new query at BM's talk page. Thanks. --Torque March 19, 2005
  • Wow! That Fadix sure ran off the mouth, as usual. I wish he would give everyone else a "brake," but he brakes for no one. Our fanatical friend has not yet revealed his mediator, MGM. I hope you're correct in the objectivity factor of the mediator, but knowing how slippery Fadix is, I can't be sure. Thanks. --Torque March 20, 2005

Human Chess

Thanks for the clean-up on aisle 4. 1st time posts are usually messy :-) -- A ghost 03/19/05

Survey

I need your view. Do you think User:Fadix's attitude be considered a personal attack? Please provide in my Talk page. --Cool Cat My Talk 20:08, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC) You dont archive, do you? --Cool Cat My Talk 07:54, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

On almost every response he either callls me biased or that I have a hidden agenda, or that I know nothing regarding the matter so "I should go read a book", he has to realise completely, this is not a forum, I do not like to be acused of things. --Cool Cat My Talk 13:39, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Roberto D'Aubuisson

Now that User:Trey Stone has been blocked for 2 weeks Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Trey Stone, and given that he was clearly one side of the edit wars and dispute going on around D'Aubuisson, would it be possible to remove the protection. I am not totally sure what the debate is about, but I want to do a complete rewrite anyway, using Spanish sources, and without any American POV's (cos i'm not American, and it did appear to be an argument between 2 American POV's of D'Aubuisson. I am working on a lot of Central American politicians, and am hoping drastic measures (i.e. introducing a lot more content) can resolve the issue of itself. So it would be really great if you could unprotect this page; if not can you please let me know when you are going to do so. Best wishes, --SqueakBox 23:23, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Fadix

"I will not stop “accusing” you to have a hidden agenda because I am not accusing, I am just pointing to the fact that you do have a hidden agenda, I do not need to accuse you, your editions clearly show it."

"You are not a moderator, a moderator can differentiate himself from his biases, you can't, I don't recognize your authority. Fadix 20:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) "

"BWAHAHA!!! (sorry could not retain myself). So Sir is neutral :)"

They also suggest the article will be more one sided so that it is neutral, I refuse to believe there is a concensus accepting the genocide, the general tone of the article is propoganda. Any edit I make to the article will be immidiately reverted by Fadix.


Article goes like this: 1 Armenians in Anatolia 2 The Armenian Genocide 3 The Camps 4 The Special organization (Teshkilati Mahsusa) 5 Millitary trials, Istanbul, 1919 6 Recent History - Timeline 7 Official Recognition 8 Turkish intellectuals who support the theses of genocide 9 Armenian Genocide memorial 10 See also 11 Resources 12 External links 12.1 Websites supporting the genocide theses 12.2 Websites opposing the genocide theses

While no/limited mention of the oposition because all oposition is propoganda, thats fanatic.

"For instance, during the Military tribunal, testimonies in the effect that Dr. Saib and Nail, an Ittihadist deputy, were heading two school buildings used as child extermination camps. Both Saib and Nail were allegedly in charge of providing the list of children who were to be distributed among the Muslim populace; the rest of the children were to be sent to the mezzanine floor to be killed by a mass gassing installation. The Children were sent there under the pretext to take baths, but were poisoned instead.

While the total number of victims that perished in all camps is hard to establish, it is by some sources estimated that close to a million would be a reasonable figure. This figure excludes Armenians who died in other ways, but may include the Special organizations participation in the events; the majority of the excluded losses are recorded in Bitlis and Sivas"

General tone has comments. And that does not sound remotely Neutral.

The diplomacy phase is not in the article, Armenian revolt is not mentioned because it "never happened". Its the claim of one side. ASALA, a terrorist organisation responsible of the murder of diplomats in Europe and US to force a Genocide Acceptance, will not be mentioned in the article because "it did not happpen during the genocide and is not remotely relevant" while bush not using the word genocide is relevant. They are making their version of the story factuality and no mention of the opposition. If you read how complicated the scholar sentence is you will see what I mean. Ant material remotely poses that the genocide did not happen is ignored and declared propoganda while anything that supports it is declared "factual". --Cool Cat My Talk 14:00, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)


The above is not personal attacks. However what indeed is a personal attack is to suggest that Fadix should be on crack:[1]

In my opinion Coolcat is a POV editor, that among other things claim that the Holocaust never happend: [2] and suggest that something like this should be neutral: [3]

Fadix on the other hand seems to be a reasonable guy, with a good understanding of Wikipedias NPOV policies. Stereotek 15:52, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Banning IPs

Plese don't ban IPs for 48 hours unless you are certain it is a static IP. Vandals can (on the most part) change their IP within a few minutes if they want, which means that any wikipedian unlucky enough to get that IP when they go online is effectively banned for 2 days. As far as I can tell, at least 3 of the 5 IPs you have banned for 48-72 hours are dynamic IPs. Trampled 13:43, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well don't let me tell you how to do your job, you're the admin :) I guess it's a bit of sore point for me as I seem to land on a banned IP at least once a week :) I understand the problem, as IP bans are the only way to go if you want to stop a vandal. The best way that I can see is to check how often they vandalise, and to reverse DNS their IP. If the hostmask looks like it's part of an ISP subnet, then it probably means it's a dynamic IP. But if their history of vandalism is lengthy, then maybe a 48 hour is a good idea. Still, carry on the good work. People like you keep Wikipedia a great source of information :) Trampled 13:54, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Luckily no, I haven't. I just thought I'd mention the length of the bans, as I know how annoying they can be to innocent users :) Trampled 14:12, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Attacking people

I admit having attacked Torque, but I deny the charges that I have attacked Coolcat, I did accuse him of things, but did in accordance of the entry regarding badfaith, since his POV were obvious and my accusations were supported. I am honest here and nothing to hide and am ready to pay for my attacks directed against Torque, but I will reject the theses of attack against Coolcat, because I don't believe having attacked him. But if you read my exchanges with Torque, you will see that my attacks were moderate in their tones compared to what I was answering, while Torque was making "racist" comments and generalizations, I always containing myself at directly attacking him. As for the neutrality of the Armenian Genocide article, I am hardly working at neutralizing it as much as possible, and another member is doing a quite a good job if sometimes I may appear introducing POV. I did add the other point of view, in which I was going to add more, but Coolcat deleted it and now claim the article is one sided. I told him that the article is still on process of getting neutralized. What Coolcat is after, is to delete important informations to mislead the reader and let him believe that there are two equal different positions, but in the Neutrality entry of Wikipedia regarding what is Neutrality and what is not, it is clearly specified that neutrality is not about presenting two different positions as equally valid, but rather presenting the different views and presenting their strongest arguments and their critics. I have proposed this to CoolCat, and started in that direction, but he ignored preferring to merge it.

Coolcat as well want to delete "who says what" and this is against Neutrality, an article should not have as goal to mislead the reader, if it happens that one position has stronger arguments, it should be left as it, if the article lets most readers to believe one position against the other, it will be because of the arguments presented. It will be hijacking an article to delete the sources and who says what, and delete the strong arguments from one side as to have as a product a work which will appear as to propose two equal propositions, doing that is suggestion, suggestion is POV and is against neutrality. This is what Coolcat wants, and this is what I am opposing to. It will be fair for Coolcat to let people that know about the topic to discuss about, because since his ignorant about the topic, the only utility he could have had would have been in neutralizing it, there is already a neutral member neutralizing the article and he is doing a pretty good job unlike coolcat, and I agree that there is still things to be neutralized, but the article is still at an early stage and the quality compared to what it was before I came here is fold higher. --Fadix 22:05, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Request

Can you investigate, User talk:Stereotek, User:Fadix. I have reason to believe these people are too closely related. Their edis are disturbingly timestampted next to each other and users are either comunicating externally (which raises the question how mediative such a well selected person is regarding Armenian Genocide article. --Cool Cat My Talk 08:53, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That I, just like Fadix, empathize that Wikipedias NPOV policies should also apply to the Armenian Genocide article, doesn't make me Fadix's sock puppet. Your view, that the Armenian Genocide never happend, is clearly a minority point of view among scholars, and it should be presented as such. That is what Wikipedias NPOV policies demand. Don't waster my and other peoples time with you frivolous accusations. Stereotek 13:37, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well I still think an investigation is necesary. You two seem to think alike :P. Its not plausable to talk in the name of entier scientific comunity.


Maybe it wasnt a personal attack but was VERY CLOSE to it, thats what my survey suggests. Discussing things with Fadix requres a dosage of pain relievers as he refuses to accept the opposing view and faisl to "agree to disagree". He called me biased when I suggested there is an oposing view, As far as I care the Armenian genocide never happen in my POV. I am not alone regarding this. They have created the aurora that Most scholars accept the genocide as a fact, this is baseless, and so on.

I do not like to be constantly be acused of bias when I present an opposing view or beeing accused of a hidden agenda. --Cool Cat My Talk 09:24, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC) Articles goal is not to mislead the reader to think Armenian Genocide happened either. The reader should absorb it as a dispute and that the facts are discrete as they are. Fadix cannot dicate the article alone. He cannot tell me what is neutral and what is factual. That would not be neutral. When I originaly suggetsed my cases he bombarded me with a mass of text. I think he has 4- 6 archives now, he is refraining from taht now I believe. Article requires proper mediation, fadix alone cannot choose a mediator. Thats not very acceptable. The Armenian and turkish version of the story conflicts hence the article should either present this conflict equaly or no sign of it at all, also the diplomatic sphere is not included. --Cool Cat My Talk 09:24, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me editing your user page, but you said Wikipedia is a dictionary, which obviously isn't true. It's an encyclopedia. Mgm|(talk) 09:03, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

  • Productive edits are more than welcome feel free to add items that will enhance it. --Cool Cat My Talk 09:25, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

He never asked for my or anyones opinion. He was like, whatever i will seek mediation. I was actualy trying to reason with him. --Cool Cat My Talk 09:32, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)


  • The above is not personal attacks. However what indeed is a personal attack is to suggest that Fadix should be on crack

1) high on crack: means the user is dilusional, he was claiming he was neutral while clearly he wasnt, I was emphisisng.

  • In my opinion Coolcat is a POV editor, that among other things claim that the Holocaust never happend

2) Yes, I am not a cabbage, I have views of my own, I did not request every material I pasted to be a part of the article, I merely suggested that Fadix's version is not the only version. I repeated my self over 4 times as I was bombarded by text and my suggestions quickly got lost in mass amount of text by fadix. That caused significant stress, and a very severe back ache.

  • Fadix on the other hand seems to be a reasonable guy, with a good understanding of Wikipedias NPOV policies. Stereotek 15:52, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

3) Right, but my discussion with him states otherwise, we dont normaly acuse other people with hiden agenda or bias. He declared me in Turkey while I was in the US, check my ip if you wish as an admin you can I believe. --Cool Cat My Talk 09:41, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism @ Turkey

16:31, 20 Mar 2005 Nosrail (NPOV). Investigation is necesary, person is an older meber with no history of vandalism I believe.


That sux :P --Cool Cat My Talk 09:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RfC GRider

Thanks. I've of course notified him. I hadn't thought of contacting those people on his talk page but it seems like a good idea. Radiant_* 10:24, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Page movers

Oh, indeed - never noticed that. I always assumed I had to do it the hard way...thanks for pointing that out, it definitely makes cleaning up the mess a bit easier :) -- Ferkelparade π 10:52, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Many thanks for doing the cleaning up work and restoring my page history! Sjakkalle 11:03, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for all your help on my user page. Saopaulo1 11:25, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the kind words. I think/hope that CSD thing was a one off - I ended up doing a fair few of them last night (lots of vandalism for some reason), so I probably blanked one accidently. --Trampled 21:42, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Armenian Genocide

Can you get me a mediator? Fadix and his counterpart is making my life difficult. I am sick of my attempts to reason the remote party are not making any sacrifices, they changed the article completely as well. --Cool Cat My Talk 00:15, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PKK

Stereotek is reverting the article constantly. I am being very annoyed, he is reverting things that had been discussed... --Cool Cat My Talk 15:30, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ranking

If you look at my user page, I have a proposed ranking system for wikipedia. Aside from Barnstars. User:Coolcat

Service Stars

Just like in the millitary and scounting a nice thing would be to have service stars for the number of years people contributed to wikipedia. --Cool Cat My Talk 22:19, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey Mgm, just a note to say thank you for voting for me in my adminship nomination! I very much appreciate your support. Best, SlimVirgin 03:45, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Stereotek + Fadix = Death

Thease two users are giving me a head ache. They declared their views as neutral and anything "touching" as POV they reverted grammer edits declaring them as pov. Please assist. Also Fadix fails to refrain from personal attacks. I ask for your cooperation to deal with people in question aproporately. --Cool Cat My Talk 08:18, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ninety Mile Beach

I don't know anything about it, I just thought it was a good article. You'll have to ask some Australian to improve it. Sorry.  :) RickK 09:50, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)


Saleel

I'd like to know why you voted to delete, rather than improve, Saleel . Can you tell me why exactly you don't think the Saleel network, which numbers in the thousands of members deserves even a mention? or is it that you dislike the layout, in which case I'd ask what do you believe could be done to improve it ? --Irishpunktom\talk 13:54, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Evidence

I do not know how to give you a link that will shouw you the line spesific chunks of text are. ill give you the links and peices of the articles, I know its not tastefull, bear with me. Lots of personal attacks and attempts to push pov. I am using whats on Archives.

  • Directed towars me, Talk:Armenian_Genocide/Archive_13 "::You are not a moderator, a moderator can differentiate himself from his biases, you can't, I don't recognize your authority. Fadix 20:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
  • Directed towars me, Talk:Armenian_Genocide/Archive_12 "So you don't have any hidden agenda right? So, maybe you can all tell us why you only play this hijacking game in entries involving Turkey? And you are lying here, the Armenian genocide is not denied by most countries"
  • Directed towars me, Talk:Armenian_Genocide/Archive_12 "You are not following Wikipedia policy, and if you have no knowledge of the subject, you can not introduce claims which are erronous, you are not neutralising the article, you are injecting in it claims you make yourself... Wikipedia present positions recognised and NOT your position, and that is what you are doing right now. And a last thing, you obviously do have an agenda, you live in Turkey(which libraries only contain one biased version of history), and do inject your biases in every Wikipedia articles which involve Turkey. And above all, you can't hide behind the claim that you are not Turk and that you only live in Turkey, unlike you, I do not hide my ethnicity because I believe that this is irrelevent and I support the position that one is credible for what he says and not based on the social construct called ethnicity he belongs to. The next time you would want to pass as a neutral individual, don't use the word "Armanian" repeatadly exposing that it is not only a mistake, but rather the Semitic(Arab/Hebrew) or Turkish pronounciation as in "Ermen" or "Arman." Now I commited a mistake, I should not have writen this I admit, but you provoked me by claiming you have no agenda which is obvious wrong.Fadix 22:44, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
  • Directed towars someone else, Talk:Armenian_Genocide/Archive_10 "As an Armenian, I HAVE TO FACE MORONS LIKE THIS RACIST NAZI-LIKE FK, WHO WRITES MORONIC RACIST NAZI-LIKE TRASH SUCH AS THIS: “Ironically (given the "genocide" charge), the Ottoman government chose the more HUMANITARIAN route. Yes, things went wrong. But the intentions were good.”"

I have finite patience at times he caused me to have "outburts" but I did not regularly declared him things regularly. But that is only a product of his attitude. The links go to wikipedia archives. I did not pu every case of his attacks regarding me. All I have is examples. --Cool Cat My Talk 17:33, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also is this a good revert? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Armenia&diff=11432359&oldid=11397107

Service Stars

Well, I am hiptising. For each "active" year we can let people get a barn star, if one contribute for a year a star with visible in the middle. (I), for 2 years (I)(I) 3 (I)(I)(I) 4 (I)(V) and so on. It would be a good way to motivate oldies. This should not be used to setup a hiearcy, Regardless people are equal however peoples contributions should be recognised, like barstars? --Cool Cat My Talk 10:55, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Holocaust versus The Holocaust

The term "holocaust" has been for centuries, and is still, in common use to describe a mass killing (see Holocaust (disambiguation)). However "the Holocaust" has come to be used to describe the Shoah. At the moment I've got Holocaust redirecting to The Holocaust but when I've finished disambiguating all references to the Holocaust (I've done this kind of massive stuff before, it's easier that it might seem) I'll probably make it redirect to Holocaust (disambiguation) and editors can fix subsequent ambiguous references in the normal course of editing. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:22, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

P.O.V.

Oh me oh my, Fadix is/was active in these articles

Tell me what you think. --Cool Cat My Talk 19:38, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

electrolytic capacitor values -s

Hi and thanks for the tip. I would greatly appreciate it if the page can be moved to the singular format. This is a good standard to follow and I did not realize it.

electrolytic caps 2

Thanks for all your help! I appreciate you taking the time to clean it up for me. I've been using Wikipedia for information for a while now and am really enthusiastic about contributing. It's nice to be a part of something that is such a big project. Thanks again!

Stovetopcookies 22:55, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fadix

"Coolcat, I will be reverting every edits you make, you are a vandalist of articles, you are ignored. - Unsigned fadix" Something must be done immidiately regarding this person, its very time consuming for me to do a spelling correction because of his reverts claming a spelling fix is a POV. I am beeing declared a vandalist for my attempts to neutralise articles, these 3 people involved are beyond reason, I tried talking to them, they maintain a "we know best, you are biased go away" attitude. I do not want mediation, I dont need mediation these people cant seem to listen. --Cool Cat My Talk 01:29, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

About Coolcat and personal attacks: Please notice that earlier today he (Coolcat) accused Davenbelle of being unable to read. In other words, another clear personal attack by Coolcat: [4] Stereotek 15:53, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NJPAC article

I see your point about having just a link there. Thanks or the tip. I added a bit of info there. It's late, and we're having guests over for Easter, but I'm off work monday so hopefully I will be able to work on it then. I think it should be there, since there is a bit of content now. Well, have a Happy Easter if you celebrate it!

Stovetopcookies 04:40, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Flower

Thank you Theresa Knott (ask the rotten) 09:38, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What sort of hypocrasy is that

The guy doesn't drop his claim of "Presenting two positions as equaly valid" and he still want to discuss about it. What is this crap of "investigating" about me, as I see Mr. Coolcat is still trying to get me banned. More interesting is that I see that he has presented the said attacks comming from me. There are in the bunch those that I have directed against Torque, but have admitted it. For instance the worst attack, if you read was in response to Torque sarcastic claim of calling the Ottoman decision of sending the Armenians to die in a death march, as "Humanitarian." I could as well ask an investigation for Coolcat intrusion in every enteries that can be related with turkey. Can I? There is no way to discuss with Coolcat, because he doesn't drop his request that is anti-Wikipedia. He want to positions to be presented 50-50 and as equaly valid, and want to get the fact that most academicians support one theses against the other, deleted. Coolcat that has admitted ignoring the topic, is acting in bad fate to sabotate the genocide entry under the guises of neutrality. While this man do that, and do the same on every enteries regarding Turkey, when I suggest he might be a Turk that believe that his opinions might be more considered if he claims he is not a Turk... I get jumped on. But one a member realise Coolcat "sincerity" and question it, he is claimed to be an Armenian. Now, another veteran has realised that Coolcat is here in bad fate. While this man from the beggining has started a campagne to kick me out by writting on peoples talk page... I have decided to discuss about the issue, and what Coolcat did best was to claim 50-50, and two equaly valid positions, and deleting the parts where it is specified that most specialists support one theses against the other. If you do not call this a vandalism, please tell me what it is. Fadix 15:25, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Coolcat

FYI, this has already been looked into by the DAO: . It could use another look. — Davenbelle 21:16, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Redirecting

Thanks a lot. — Instantnood 15:35, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Sport_and_games

Hey I added the current GCOTW to the wikiportal you set up. Hoop dat je het geen probleem vind, we kunnen nog wel wat meer medewerkers gebruiken op dat samenwerkings project ;)

On second thought, we're thinking of making a dedicated portal for video games. I'll remove that template from your page for now until we decide if we're gonna do this or not. Jacoplane 11:05, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cypress

Hi MGM - this is based on (a) the tradition of use of cypress and related woods in east Asia for coffins, and that (b) cedar does not occur at all in east Asia. To use cedar it would have to have been imported 4,000 km overland over very difficult mountain terrain from the nearest sources in the western Himalaya; wood was not sufficiently valuable a commodity to allow that sort of trade. I would suspect your source reference for 'cedar' would be a misapplication of the name to cypress woods (an all too common misidentification error; see e.g. sugi, an east Asian species in the cypress family commonly mis-named a 'cedar'). Worth noting though that cedar wood (imported from Lebanon, Cyprus and Turkey) was used in Egypt; whether it was specifically used in mummification I don't know - MPF 10:59, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mummy

In the article about mummies, naturally formed mummies should be more emphasized, for example Ötzi and others. The article should also tell something about the scientific meaning of mummies, as they enable us to infer about culture, technology and science in the past. Thanks for your efforts. --Eleassar777 15:46, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Replied on PR, better then my talk page I think. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 13:23, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Copyvios

We seem to have run into each other catching copyvios. I already already added Darna to WP:CP (the guy added several copyright violations), so you don't have to worry about it. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker 09:15, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Many thanks for your comments. Now I have to decide whether I'm most nervous about the voting going for or against me... Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:47, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Greetings. You recently let me know that I was a bit sloppy in how I featured an article on DYK, cutting in line, as it were. I've read through the directions, and tried to update the page according to the rules this time. How'd I do? – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 20:54, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

The Advanced Wikipedian

Hi Mgm,

I'm not really sure whether you are the sort of guy who know's his Iambic pentameter from his limerick (I don't really), but if so, you might be able to improve, correct and extend . -- Solipsist 22:47, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Did you know archival bot

Can you explain the DYK process more clearly? Like, tell me clearly the step by step process you take to move content to the archive pages? -- AllyUnion (talk)

Template talk:Did you know has a header "ARCHIVE USED SUGGESTIONS HERE" under which used suggestions are bulleted and included in reverse chronological order in blocks of items which where featured together. The top of this items is followed by a link of the picture that was used in the update should be added to this block of items in Wikipedia:Recent additions.
In contrast to this section, Wikipedia:Recent additions items are not bulleted. To compare coding of the sections, please check the edit history as that explains it far better than I do.
Archival of Wikipedia:Recent additions to a subpage is done by moving approximately the oldest 50 edits of the main page (a picture item still needs to be on top).
Hope this makes things somewhat clearer. - Mgm|(talk) 12:52, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
Oldest edits are being... at the bottom or the top? I can write a bot so that there are exactly 50 did you know lines (including pictures) and continuously archive any excess lines into the approprate archive. The assumption that I will have to make is that the related (if any) image preceeds the did you know line. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:34, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Oldest items are at the bottom.
[[Image:Imagename|"right" or "left"|100px|alt text] is at right above the item the picture belongs to. How about alternating left and right layout of pictures. Would I need to code that in the talk page before the bot moves it? - Mgm|(talk) 17:47, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
Wait, wait, wait... am I moving stuff from "Template talk:Did you know" to "Wikipedia:Recent additions" and then moving stuff on "Wikipedia:Recent additions" to an archive page? -- AllyUnion (talk) 20:42, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes, you are. We need the latest few weeks to stay at the talk page so late changes can still be made to the items in that archive. Is that a problem? Mgm|(talk) 20:56, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
"Few weeks"... I kind of need a determined time frame and how many lines to leave, and such. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:29, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm, I think the bot should leave three blocks of items. Each block signifies an update and contains the 3 or 4 items that were used. You can let the bot recognize blocks by looking for image links, right? Mgm|(talk) 21:34, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
Should I start adding image links to the top of blocks on "Template talk" or is bot-aided image location change from the talk page to the Recent additions archive possible? Mgm|(talk) 21:37, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In case you didn't know. That was me. Somehow my computer decided to log out *grumble*. Mgm|(talk) 21:44, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

The assumption link for "images" fails. Not all "blocks" as you so describe them have starting images.

This is the program's basic pseudocode:

  1. Scan for the first "<!-- newly archived items should go in at the top -->"
  2. While the next "<!-- newly archived items should go in at the top -->" has not been found then search for: (outer loop)
    • Find "<br>\n\n" or "<br/>\n\n" or "<br />\n\n" (\n is newline in programming terms)
  3. Repeat the following steps: (inner loop)
    1. Look for: "...that" or "[[Image:" (the latter is case insensitive)
    2. Find the next: "...that" or "[[Image:" (the latter is case insensitive)
    3. Save this as a "Did you know" line
    4. Increase did you know line count
  4. If "<br>\n\n" or "<br/>\n\n" or "<br />\n\n" has been found, increase the block count

This way, I can store each block like you say. Once the did you know line count has exceeded 50 items, place into the archive. If the archive has exceeded 50 items, close the archive. Sounds about right? -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:17, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It looks about right if this is the code to archive Recent additions pages, but I've got no idea if the code is correct as I have very limited programming knowledge. Will this make you count from the bottom up? Cause we need the oldest (bottom) 50 items. BTW Thanks for looking into this. Mgm|(talk) 07:31, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
Well, pseudocode is like writing semi-English but in a code like fashion. Just ask yourself whether or not these steps are the logical approaches that you would do in a step by step fashion. The difference between you and computer is that the computer can only handle one instruction at a time, so you have to break down everything to the smallest parts and describe in detail what you need to do. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:57, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
By the way, each archive is about 50, right? It doesn't have to be exactly 50 correct?

The bot is coming along slowly. There are some code process development that I'm thinking over. Don't worry about running it, when it's done, I'll get it up and running under a special bot username. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:48, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The pseudocode is from top to bottom. The reason for this is that it needs to count from top to bottom as files are read from top to bottom. I'm writing the bot to process the whole page and count everything. Of course, the bottom most lines will be removed, but it won't know that unless it is counted correctly. The pseudocode is written to count everything. -- AllyUnion (talk) 00:54, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank You!

Hi MacGyverMagic,

I would like to thank you for your vote of support and confidence for my adminship, it has been much appreciated. If you need anything in future that requires my attention, please do not hesitate to contact me. :)

- Cheers, Mailer Diablo 18:22, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Unusual articles

Re, duplicate edit. Oh, that's odd, I remember getting an edit conflict message, but I'm pretty sure the content I placed there wan;t in the top window. Maybe I just pressed 'submit' twice quickly with a shaky finger or something. Thanks for the fix. --bodnotbod 19:30, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Possibly bad instructions on DYK

Hello again. So I updated the DYK page again, and I notice that some of the instructions may be incorrect or out of date. So I updated the Did you know template page and talk page to give more consistent instructions. I thought I'd run it by you, to see if you agree with the changes.

Diffs: [5] [6]

Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 21:25, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Re: trains on DYK

Understood. I'll try to spread out my nominations a bit more henceforth. There's just so much more that could easily be written (like all the red links on Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Todo or User:Slambo/Railroaders), that it's easy to get a little carried away in adding new data. Maybe time to get back to getting more existing articles up to Featured level (which inherently adds time between nominations)... slambo 21:31, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)


RE: Susej on DYK

For what it is worth, I agree with your Rv action. This one seemed to leap right onto the Main Page without following the customary progression on the DYK Talk page. Vaoverland 11:49, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

MacGyver

You know, McGyver article has room for improvement. Wana assist? --Cool Cat My Talk 12:32, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I dont want to be refered in anyway else tha Coolcat. They know it and they are there to annoy me just check their latest contributions. --Cool Cat My Talk 12:51, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You got me

Yes, my nick, as I use it is tipicaly an oxymoron, I am neither cool nor am I feline like. I am a boring comp eng ;) --Cool Cat My Talk 13:02, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Devil's Lake controversy

I see you responded to Alexwcovington's request to step in on the Devil's Lake article controversy. I hope before you move pages back that you read the comments on the talk pages and the clarification I put on the Help Desk request, because what he's saying is a rather skewed version of events. DreamGuy 20:37, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

Armenian genocide

You've claimed that Tony has done nothing wrong, I entry disagree, a new user just log, and makes changes that Coolcat wanted to make, and clearly POV oriented, while it took days to get the article neutralised, when I revert it back, Tony revert it and lock the article. This is a CLEAR abuses of administration privilages, while the article in its original form was submitted for comment and peer review and mediation. Not only Tony took a clear position in the dispute, but he acted irresponsabily by choosing a version from a new registered alias against many other members. And now, after making that clear to him, he irresponsably still maintain that version. I want to know how to report Tony, because I believe this is obviously an abuses of power. Fadix 01:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

MGM I am sorry for using your personal talk as a message board but I have to reply to this.
I think you are over reacting fadix, you declared Tony the most Neutral admin a while ago, now you say this. By making loud noise you irritate people. The more you irritate the more people dislike you. Tony reported a review for his own desicion. If he really wants to remove you he can ban you, I think. --Cool Cat My Talk 07:53, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes! He was acting very neutraly, until he locked the article on the edit you wanted to make, from a newly created alias... and he even claimed that he locked it in what he believed to be a better choice. As for irritating people, look whos talking. Fadix 14:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I think like your idea of {{twoversions}} template though I'm a bit hazy as to how one goes about doing that. If you want to step in and install that template, be my guest. Never mind, I figured it out and did it myself. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 17:05, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
By the way, Coolcat, it's wrong to say I could ban Fadix (or even block him). Nobody is acting that badly, not you, not Fadix, and I couldn't just decide to block someone even if I wanted to. I know you all get angry and upset because this article is about a very important issue and it can seem sometimes that the other editors are trying to distort it. But as an outsider I view your behavior as reasonable in the circumstances, and I'm only trying to encourage you to reach agreement on the article. This means you all have to try to respect the other person's point of view, even if you don't accept the validity of his interpretation. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 15:55, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is NOT about other editors "seem" to distort it. The other editor DID distort the article, and if Mr. Coolcat was the neutral person he claims to be, he would ACCEPT that... but with my suspicion that both are the same... I don't expect him to accept it. Fadix 20:29, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I think Ill join up with the mummy thing

I was hoeping the amount of study time I wasited on National Geogaphic not be waisted. --Cool Cat My Talk 07:48, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yeah Ill work on it though not today. I created the stub. --Cool Cat My Talk 08:39, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ill explain you why I made it the way I made it, though you have to see my progress there. --Cool Cat My Talk 19:40, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Purported medicinal properties of mummies in China and other places

Scan initiated, gathering data.

--Cool Cat My Talk 09:17, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: WExCUp

Awesomely cool, welcome aboard! :) - RedWordSmith 16:56, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Links and intestines

Lungs vs Lungs are the same I know but latter higligts all leters. I also fixed one broken link, no one can spell intestants correctly :P ;) --Cool Cat My Talk 19:30, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... Aperantly not. LoL. :P --Cool Cat My Talk 19:31, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Speedy

Thanks. At first, I thought it would be fun to scan through all of the new articles that are coming in. As a result, I got into the job of tagging them as I see them. Zzyzx11 22:35, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template:Kurdistan Workers Party/Timeline

Hi Mgm, I saw you in the history of some of User:Coolcat's template experiments; I've reworked what he was doing as subpages in his user space; there's a discussion on my talk page and I adjusted his notice on the village pump. The timeline is still a template and I thought I should give you a heads-up; it's still used by Kurdistan Workers Party which I'm not going to touch for now. — Davenbelle 06:31, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)

Searching

I want it to be where if you search for "Sandbox 2", it shows my sandbox! I don't want to need to search for "User:flarn2005/sandbox"! How can I make it like that for all users? Thanks!

P.S. I know there are rules like this for every sandbox, but there are rules that cussing and other offensive content are not allowed in any article, right?

DYK

Would you rather I just not edit the template again? I know it's unofficially "your thing." Mike H 09:32, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

I'll keep the piece of advice in mind, then! Thanks :) Mike H 09:37, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Right now I've been writing some articles that were glaring omissions from Wikipedia, at least from my American point of view. Ruth's Chris Steak House now has an article, as does the 1960s girls' toy Chatty Cathy. Other than that, I got involved in a messy POV dispute on Terri Schiavo, and got reported for 3RR (to be fair, that article got 100 edits over 12 hours and the first revert was from about 12 hours before the other three...I had forgotten I'd even done it). The user who reported me has been pushing his POV and getting quite vindictive. But eh. Mike H 17:50, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

I'm the author of the broad fish tapeworm article you put on DYK today. I wanted to thank you for posting it and to ask you a quick question/favor. Is there a way for me to add that DYK template to my user page? I'd like to have a record that I once made it onto the front page. Thanks in advance. Dave (talk) 19:35, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! Dave (talk)

Thank you

Thank you for supporting my adminship — I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:06, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


DYK

My apologies. I followed the DYK archiving procedures that I was familiar with, but if they're different now than they used to be, please correct my errors. Thanks! -- Seth Ilys 12:13, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Did you know bot progress

For the images, I may decide to leave the bot not to do the left and right as it will not be able to give an alternative text to the image in the first place. It might be better for someone to do that manually. It would be a minor annoyance... I could have it always reorder the left and right, making the first picture always start from the left or something. You're request is a bit featured heavy, and I have to think carefully over what I'm coding. -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:17, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the kind words on my talk page. It's frustrating when you think you're doing good (if thankless) work and you keep having to defend yourself over and over and over again. However, friendly words from others help a ton, my spirits have been lifted. Kevin Rector 13:49, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Images and media for deletion votes

  • I am contacting people who previously helped to vote to delete a generally objectionable photograph by a vote of 88 to 21, and who might be unaware that immediately after that image was voted to be deleted someone posted another which was very similar in content. My objections to this, and the previous image that was voted to be deleted might be based upon reasons far different from any that you have, but I do object to it, and consider the posting of such images to be acts of asinine stupidity, which burdens the project and its major educational aims in ways that they should not be burdened, and can be extremely detrimental to the acceptance and growth of WIkipedia's use and influence. Thus far those who I believe to be in the extreme minority of Wikipedians who would like to include these images, many who have been channeled to the voting page from the article with which it is associated have dominated the voting, 23 to 12 (as of the time that I composed this message). I would like to be somewhat instrumental in shedding a bit more light upon the issue, and if possible, helping to turn the tide against its inclusion. It might also be necessary to begin making an effort to establish an explicit Wikipedia policy against explicite photographic depictions of humans engaged in erotic, auto-erotic, or quasi-erotic activities. To my limited knowledge such images have not been accepted as appropriate anywhere else within this project, and frankly I can agree with those who are casually labeled prudes for opposing their inclusion, that they should not be. Vitally important information that might be unwelcome by some is one thing that should never be deleted, but un-needed images that can eventually prevent or impede many thousands or millions of people from gaining access to the great mass of truly important information that Wikipedia provides is quite another. There are vitally important distinctions to be made. Whatever your reasons, or final decisions upon the matter, I am appealing for more input on the voting that is occurring at Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion ~ Achilles 21:29, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


soory was hit by a 747... :P

Working on the article. Egiptians have had rituals and protocol. Like social classes been treated differently. --Cool Cat My Talk 23:52, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Merging complete! not.

Are people merging things in a hybernating state? Southern Kurdistan had been waiting to be merged too long :( Is there a voiting of some sort? --Cool Cat My Talk 08:53, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Merging Complete! Power overwhelimng. Mmmm zerglings... :P Not all my demands are demanding, what do you think about the ritual intro? I am infuenced by several pages but I think its ok to do that :P --Cool Cat My Talk 09:13, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry About That Chief

Salve, MacGyverMagic!
Haven't communicated with you lately. Hope all is well with you. Sorry about that with "Did You Know"--those were my first postings there. I've gone and bolded the relevant article titles for you. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 15:05, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

European tree frog sandbox

Hey, I have added the spawn part, although I am not sure of my use of the word clutch, I basicly mean a cluster and I am not sure if clutch has that meaning besides being part of a car. It's not that easy to translate an article full of biological terms, but if you want further help, certainly tell me. Btw your numbers for adult animals don't mtch the german version whereas they are 30 to 50mm, seldom reaching 60mm. Matthias Aubin April 7

Well then, I guess I will be working on the article. Just promise me you read over my changes, I do not feel that confident with the subject. Might have read my own talkpage, would have known how to sign. 24.95.57.19 21:59, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Scooped!

You scooped me on my first attempt to welcome a newbie...spent so much time fiddling over getting it right that I ended up with an edit conflict! Oh well :) Guettarda 20:03, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)


--Sorry, I am seriously conflicted about the performance of the Wikipedia software and moderators. I am beginning to think that I can still do better with google and blogs... I read through some of the deletions pages and am concerned with the point of fame, notability, and broad interest that seems to be part of this decision process. I understand to some extent the vanity arguments and such, but I am interested in seeing a place that is a bit of a more level playing field. Wikipedia is what it is and I have no qualms with that, but I look forward to a site that will finally combine all of the information of the world into one huge collaboration. I am new, so forgive my opinions if they are in ignorance. (Unsigned comment by Mpetre)

Clout

Thank you


Thanks and EGF

Thanks for your support of my Adminship nomiantion. Also, I saw epidermal-derived growth factor on vfd, techincally it is just epidermal growth factor, the information on the receptor may warrant a seperate article on the EGF receptor, but I would tend toward keeping the hormone and receptor in one article for now--nixie 02:38, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Do you know who

Codes wikipedia? I am thinking of using the number of edits as a median to determine ranking. I want to know if it is feasable to generate a dynamic wikipedia page for users who want to be ranked. --Cool Cat My Talk 04:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Head template

You are using my old code, I improved it greatly ;) Infact you are welcome to use my template if you like, I welcome any suggestions :) --Cool Cat My Talk 04:28, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template

Well, I dont care too much about news (editwise) either, but it keeps you up to date so one isnt too terribly ignorant. You can delete the news part if you like :). By the way what do you think of the red box and my new user page? --Cool Cat My Talk 07:24, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Delete 4 me

Can you delete this for me? I no longer have a use for it as I restructured my page. --Cool Cat My Talk 07:30, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Fact of the Day...

Appears to be dead, I dont think its been continued as "Did you Know" is sufficient. :) --Cool Cat My Talk 01:14, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My greatest work has been completed!!!

I finished the archival bot. It was no easy task. But it is done. I will let you check over the contributions first before I schedule it to run every certain amount of specified days. -- AllyUnion (talk) 02:38, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind... still has bugs. -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:14, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

my status/development box

Thanks for your comments at User talk:Violetriga/statusdevelopment. It's now been implemented using an example set of templates - would be great if you took a second look. Cheers, violet/riga (t) 16:14, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

While a top and bottom to the box would look good, I think that it would further complicate things. With the way I've tried to do it I'm hoping that it would be both backwards compatible and not require any changes to the existing systems: to highlight something as a FAC you would still just add , for example. Talk:Automatic number plate recognition is:
{{oldpeerreview}}
{{featured}}
{{iwc1-nom}}
To change to the new system would just require the templates updated and the first two to be swapped around (though even that is a minor aesthetic point). violet/riga (t) 16:40, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DYK

I will try to do that. I noticed the upcoming DYK pool was sorta dry, so I went and looked a couple of times, and didn't see anything much that I wanted to work with. That is why I dusted off a couple of items I had on hold. Yours in Richmond, Mark Vaoverland 22:12, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

That's hot

Two months ago, you previously deleted thats hot after consensus to do so on VFD. Since there was a spelling error in the title, I didn't know that article had been done until I created my own that's hot, which is much more cleaned-up than the other article (it's wikified, concise, and has four sources). I want to know what you think of it. About notability, I received over 900,000 hits by searching the terms "that's hot Paris Hilton." Mike H 10:59, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

DYK

I went through the newest articles but couldn't find anything interesting enough for me to write or even condense a blurb for DYK. I did work up a couple of new ones with some non-US content however. Yours in Richmond, Mark. Vaoverland 20:21, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Mummy

Thanks for the note. Ancient Egypt is not my field but as it happens I know someone who has studied it and I'll see what she says. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 11:06, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Someone is deleting this as fast as I can bring it back, who is deleting it and why not bother leave a msg to discussion or the author, there is no reason to have alergy against templates. --Cool Cat My Talk 17:15, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Templates

By definition are used in multiple articles. That template was used in 2 articles before it was deleted. Both Kurds and Kurdistan need that. Also History of the kurds, and basicaly anything related to kurds probably needs it, as anything kurd related is more than likely to mention kurdistan at a point. Topic is rather boring I think. --Cool Cat My Talk 22:06, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I do not understand the alergy towards templates. No harm was done, no info was removed. See how I used templates in Ranks and Insignia of Starfleet and Ranks and Insignia of NATO. Ranks of NATO officers, starfleet officers are unlikely to change. If any article related to Belgian Army, ranks are avalible for display with one simlple template. I am an engineer, I try to do more with less. :) I do not understand what my "bad" conduct is. I do not appriciate the fact that my templates get deleted lightning fast and me not notified. Based on what concensius are they deleted is what it gets me. Files became orphan because someone reverted the article, was trying to be productive I believe. --Cool Cat My Talk 22:11, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kurds are a very fragile topic, should be aproached with care, just like many other Turkey related material. I Search and destroy pov. I introduce govermental data. If I introduced POV people are welcome to discuss, I do not welcome all my edits on pages including spelling corrections be reverted , but you know that. --Cool Cat My Talk 22:06, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is what I think. What do you think? --Cool Cat My Talk 22:11, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I don't know how to put a link to my contributions on my user page. I didn't know who to ask, so I picked you. Howabout1 03:08, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome

It was my pleasure. As vandalism goes, it was somewhat odd, but then again there is much I don't understand. — Knowledge Seeker 07:50, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for resizing the photo. Can I get a link to where I can learn how to do it?

Regards, Bobby Awasthi

Aplogies

Now that I have used Wikipedia for a few days I am beginning to see the process in action and am liking it more each day. I do believe this is the best possible solution for the problem at hand, I just didn't understand some things when I started reading deletions. i.e. Some obscure American Idol contestant entry was allowed to stand, but an entry about a historical figure in Women's history was being deleted. However, I do think this system comes to the best resolution 90% of the time and pop culture will erase itself eventually...
(Comment by User:Mpetre)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/First Photograph

I just got a high-res version, and the image is public domain. Please support the high-res version. --brian0918 17:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Survey help

Hi! Thanks for the offer of help with my survey. If I can find your MSN username, I'll be sure to try to catch you sometime. Should be all ready to do it either late this week, or early next. Thanks again! — PMcM 20:31, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

(Just got your survey results, with e-mail/MSN details.) — PMcM 20:34, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hello again! I've been looking out for you on MSN, but I don't think I've managed to be online at a time when you also are. I'm usually online from around 1300 UTC to 0000 UTC. Possibly there is some technical problem (like one of us having our block list set or something) which is getting in the way? If you could possibly contact me either through my talk page, or e-mail, we can hopefully sort something out. Thanks. — PMcM 22:28, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chocolate chip

Unfortunately I can't help, as I don't know any more about them than is in the article (which I didn't start). Deb 11:52, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

170.158.96.99's block

I noticed on the talk page that 170.158.96.99 was blocked sometime around 21 March. You didn't mention how long the block was, but a quick check of the contributions shows two edits in the last two weeks, both of which were vandalism. Either this user is violating the block, or has simply continued old habits. —chris.lawson (talk) 17:33, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have an update on this user if you're willing to handle the admin portion of re-blocking it. I've been in dialogue via e-mail with the maintainer of the netblock, and he's given his approval to extend the block on this IP through 25 April. I've got the e-mails if you'd like to contact me privately, or I can post them here. —chris.lawson (talk) 01:30, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You've Got Mail™ ;) —chris.lawson (talk) 13:27, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Signpost and featured articles

If you'd like to take a regular beat and write about new featured article and featured picture candidates, that would be wonderful. You could even start this week if you like, because the last few weeks my efforts to cover that area have been limited by time constraints.

To answer your question, yes, I did get the list of promotions straight from Goings-on. Unless there's a particular news item (like the 500 mark, or the 17-in-a-week record), I try to pick one or two nominations that would be the most interesting to write about, then briefly mention the rest of the promotions. The ones you focus on might not always be successful candidates — stuff that doesn't get promoted sometimes gives you more interesting material.

While I'm gone, I've asked User:Sj to be the guest editor. For his benefit, and because as more people get involved more organization is needed, we're asking reporters to get stories in by midnight UTC on Saturdays. They don't need to be completely polished, and they can and should be updated if more things happen on Sunday (like additional promotions), but we'd like to have the basic elements of the story by then. We have a newsroom set up for The Signpost now to help coordinate this.

Thanks for your help on this project, both past and future. --Michael Snow 06:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A Quick Hello

A Quick Hello to the jewel who makes this Wiki-Wacky place worth visiting. I've been out of the loop for the time being because Fadix is too committed to keep up with; he now has allies, and apparent clear sailing. However, I did leave a response on the following Talk page, if you're feeling masochistic. Best to you, --Torque April 13, 2005

Olympiade

Hi, Mgm. Since you can speak Dutch, can you look at the Olympiade article, I thought it looked like a dump of text from a book and slapped on a {{delete}}-tag, but maybe an {{untranslated}} would be more in order. Sjakkalle 11:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Signpost article about template standardisation

I've had a go at a signpost article (here) and tried to represent it in